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On Monday evening, I attended the General Election Hustings event held at Exeter Cathedral to listen to what the candidates had to say and to interview them afterwards.
The Exeter seat has been held by Ben Bradshaw of the Labour Party since the 1997 election. Indeed, in the recent 2017 election, he won 34,336 votes (62% of votes). However, the race for this seat could be tight. After the event, Ben Bradshaw told me he and his team are fighting for every vote, but that “If the current opinion polls are anything to go by, then it could be very close between me and the tory this time.” Indeed, John Gray, the Conservative candidate, told me that Labour’s 16,000 majority “is looking very shaky at the moment”. He then explained that some Labour voters have told him that for the first time in their lives they will be voting Conservative due to a dislike of Jeremy Corbyn and due to feeling let down over Brexit.
In total, there were four candidates at the Hustings: Ben Bradshaw of the Labour Party, John Gray of the Conservative Party, Joe Levy of the Green Party and Duncan Odgers of UKIP. The questions during the hustings concerned Climate Change, Brexit, poverty and homelessness and the economy, as well as other issues. Throughout the Hustings, there were no major surprises and candidates mainly stuck to party lines.
On climate change, John Gray discussed Conservative plans to tackle the climate crisis. Joe Levy discussed the Greens’ plans, highlighting the Green New Deal. Duncan Odgers stated, among other things, that population growth is a problem and also that we need to recycle more of our waste. And, Ben Bradshaw stated we need a complete transformation of our economy to a zero-carbon economy, which requires government action as the “the free market cannot and will never do that”.
On the issue of Brexit, candidates were asked: Is it irresponsible for a party leader to avoid expressing a firm view on Brexit? The UKIP candidate responded: “I think it is an absolute disgrace that a leader of a party can actually not have an opinion and say which way. You can’t just stay neutral.” Following up on this, I asked Ben Bradshaw afterwards if he thought Jeremy Corbyn’s neutral stance on Brexit would cost Labour in the election and he responded: “No, I don’t”. He argued that, if you are going to have a legally binding referendum on any Brexit deal and Jeremy Corbyn is the Prime Minister, then it makes sense for him to take a neutral position because people will know that he will implement the result whatever it is. I also asked Joe Levy if he thought that having a people’s vote is anti-democratic, to which he replied no. “I don’t think more democracy is undemocratic.” “I think it is only right that people have the chance to vote based on what we now know.” I also asked John Gray if the Conservatives are the party that can deliver Brexit, to which he replied yes. He explained that all Parliamentary candidates for the Conservative party had to sign a pledge to say they support that [Boris Johnson’s] deal. He also explained that the PM will recall Parliament the week after polling day and will put through the withdrawal act that week if the Conservatives get a majority.
Regarding the economy, candidates were asked: “Do you believe that nationalisation of key industries is a sensible policy?” Joe Levy was in favour of some industries being run as public services. Whereas, John Gray stated he is not in favour of nationalisation. He cited his prior experiences of nationalisation and said: “in all cases, the experience was absolutely appalling.” Duncan Odgers said: “Nationalisation is okay, apart from governments can’t run it properly.” He also said: “We cannot just borrow money, it is fiscally irresponsible in my opinion.” Finally, Ben Bradshaw argued for “public ownership where there is market failure”, which has, he suggested, occurred in our privatised railways and water companies. He also emphasised that “Labour’s spending plans, which are fully costed in our manifesto, would take the size of the state in this country to the same level as that of Germany or the Scandinavian countries; those are not economic basketcases.”
After the event, I asked Ben Bradshaw and John Gray about the NHS. I asked Ben Bradshaw: What do you think Labour can do for the NHS? He replied: “The NHS desperately needs more investment and we also need proper investment in social care because we have a social care crisis at the moment.” He also voiced his concerns about Brexit and a trade deal with Trump because this would, in his opinion, be very risky for the NHS as the Americans don’t make any secret of the fact they would like to get their hands on the NHS. I then asked John Gray: How do you respond to criticisms that the NHS is up for sale? He replied: “if you go back and look at every general election, probably it started about 1997, the Labour party have always run stories such as ‘Ten days to save the NHS’. They are always telling the public that the NHS is not safe in conservative hands. This is just the latest version of the scare story.” He also stated that: “Nobody in the conservative party wants to sell off the NHS. It is absolutely and utterly ridiculous”.
Finally, I also asked Joe Levy how the Green party are going to fund their New Green deal. He explained that we cannot afford not to because of climate change and that we can save money by, in addition to other policies, ending some hugely wasteful projects, such as Trident and HS2, and by tackling poverty and by having a fairer taxation system. I then asked: During the hustings, you mentioned that perhaps the electorate isn’t economically competent, do you stand by that comment? He replied: “Not the electorate. Politicians. And I think most people aren’t to be honest because it’s [economics] not something that we are taught in schools and I think we are fed a lot of lies. It’s no one’s fault that that’s the case.”
All things considered, throughout the event, the debate was positive, friendly and constructive. Unsurprisingly, key sticking points remain over Brexit, the NHS and the economy. Ultimately, it is up to the people of Exeter to decide the best route forward for their constituency.
Disclaimer: I have tried to avoid misrepresenting the views of those discussed in this article. If you feel your views were misrepresented, please leave a comment and I will try to rectify any errors.